Highly thought provoking discussion of the origins of nature. Both made a great case for "Intelligent Design," with one intentionally doing so and the other, perhaps inadvertently. Could evolution be only one part of Creation - the perpetuation of creation itself? Some of the phenomenal transformations in nature would simply have created their own extinction as the process evolved midpoint were they not created outright in full form. It is a fascinating subject. Still not solved entirely in the human realm of thinking. Most life on this planet is far too advanced in design for our present scientific minds so it is dismissed as simply all evolving on its own. Unfortunately, saying that man directly evolved from the ape gave ruthless men (Those who wiped out native American tribes and later Hitler) validation that they were killing animals, not humans. Darwin's theory included just such biased arguments regarding the less advanced members of the" species." Darwin's theory was used to justify the annihilation of many indigenous people groups by people who considered themselves to be educated. Fascinating debates.

Really interesting and thought-provoking. highly sophisticated discussion.